custom dashboard feeds not refreshing. Again

[Andrea_R]

Is this stored in a cache somewhere in the db? I had issues before where the dashboard would not display the feed from the sitewide-feed plugin (probably due to some validation error), but after I ran it through feedburner it displays fine. That hummed along nicely for months.

Now it won't refresh.  And no, I didn't touch anything. It's like this for everyone.

Feel free to toss out ideas.

(I really hate they they took out the customization feature. And yes, when I reverted back to it errors spewed all over.)

[quentin]

I got rid of the dashboard feeds due to this same issue. Would show up sometimes, then not, not sure why. I have stuff read from DB directly now (who wants external feeds in their dashboard anyway ?).

[Andrea_R]

Yeah, i was thinking of going that route. Heck, I have it on the MAIN site page, but some users want to see it on the dashboard too. 

[Luke]

I switched it to using my sitewide feed, originally. Knock on wood, it hasn't had any issues so far.

If I remember correctly, it had something to do with the cache getting hosed and not updating.

IMHO, that cache eats up more DB space than it's worth.

I'm working to do something similar, but skip using RSS.

Basically the same thing as y'all mentioned.

[drmike]

It's all those RSS feeds that get saved within the options table.  I believe there was a trac ticket on the regular wp trac on the subject that, i believe, got closed with a worksforme.

[Andrea_R]

Well I'm all for clearing out stuff in the db.

Is it just me or are those grey boxes fugly?

[Luke]

What "grey" boxes?

[Andrea_R]

OOoooooOOOOooooooo! Preeeeettyyyyyy.......   

[drmike]

Show off.

[Andrea_R]

I feel like saying "code or it didn;t happen" . 

[Luke]

Show off.

[drmike]

I could have done that if I wanted to.

[Luke]

But did ya? Exactly.

lol

Not that it's really anything complicated. Just a little bit of CSS goodness.

[ron_r]

Except links, I have no blue anywhere in my standalone WP backend.

[Luke]

I like blue.

[Andrea_R]

Except links, I have no blue anywhere in my standalone WP backend.

Now who's a show-off?

[drmike]

Bet it is a sign of a problem.  RSS feeds that are being cached are not clearing out.

Here's the trac ticket I was thinking about:

http://trac.wordpress.org/ticket/3950

Do note that it says that feeds are cached for 1 hour.  That's not what I was eeeing the last time I looked at the issue.

[Luke]

Except links, I have no blue anywhere in my standalone WP backend.

Now who's a show-off?

Um, yeah! What She said!

lol

[Andrea_R]

@mike Yeah, something is up with feeds in general as I've had to clear out flickr feeds too.

[Luke]

Sounds like a magpie problem, maybe?

Well, either that or (obviously) something isn't seeing the cache as expired, and subsequently updating it.

[ron_r]

Now who's a show-off?

Um, yeah! What She said!

lol

Gotta get in the spot light when I can

[Luke]

Or maybe when it's not being "stolen" from you?

[drmike]

If someone would care to raise the issue in a wpmu trac ticket....

[ron_r]

If someone would care to raise the issue in a wpmu trac ticket....

We're a hard bunch to keep in line, aren't we

[drmike]

We're a hard bunch to keep in line, aren't we

Dang, this is on the public side.

Let's just say that I think the issue should be looked at.

[Luke]

I honestly haven't seen an issue, really. But, that could just be the luck of the draw, too.

[drmike]

Have you looked at your options tables for your individual blogs?

[Luke]

Me?

I haven't given it 2 thoughts, since my feeds are updating.

[drmike]

I haven't given it 2 thoughts, since my feeds are updating.

On my install, the feeds were updating but they were leaving being the RSS data within the table.

You may want to check as it may be leaving the crap in there.

[Luke]

Oh. Isn't that "lovely".

[Andrea_R]

Yeah, it does it on our setup too. maybe it;s leftover from old code? Who knows...


Hey, drmike, whatever happened to all your daria.be users anyway?

[Luke]

So we're referring to the same feeds, duplicated within the wp_X_options table, right?

Here's a snapshot from a 1.2.3 test site I'm playing with. Since I'm just tinkering, it's not 1.2.4 yet.

Note, this is just the option_name field. I will confirm that the content matches for duped entries.

[drmike]

Yeah, it does it on our setup too. maybe it;s leftover from old code? Who knows...

More like it's not clearing it out when grabbing a new copy of the feed.

Hey, drmike, whatever happened to all your daria.be users anyway?

No idea.  I gave them a month notice.  Only had about 6 regular bloggers anyway.

edit: Luke, on daria.be, i had blogs with hundreds of those.

[Luke]

I'm just making sure that this is what we're talking about.

Multiple entries of the same stuff. As in...  instead of updating the entry, it adds a new one.

If that's the case, my "best guess" is that when the content should be updated, it's using add_option vice update_option.

But, that's without poking around to find that code at the moment.

[drmike]

I would imaging that it's done in the fetch_rss function.  I don't see any options in the wp-admin/index-extra.php file.

[Luke]

I'm sure I could find it. I'm just being lazy at the moment as I'm working with another codebase for another project.

[drmike]

There are a few sites online that document where certain functions are within the wordpress files.  next time I come across one, I should post about it.

[Luke]

Cool. Although grep is about as fast.

[drmike]

Cool. Although grep is about as fast.

Agreed and I think that should be added into the "things you should know about before using mu" list.  That and ssh access.

[Andrea_R]

Eh, I think as long as you're willing to learn, know how to find stuff, are willing to try things, possibly break it and not freak out, then that's good enough for me.

Heck, I didn't know squat last February compared to now.

I'd at least warn people it's a steep curve though.

[Luke]

grep isn't really difficult. You just have to be careful with looking for variables.

[drmike]

grep isn't really difficult. You just have to be careful with looking for variables.

Gotta admit that I use grep about once a month and have to look it up to remember how to do it.  One of the schools I use has that port blocked anyway. (Which reminds me that I need to find a port that isn't blocked and dupe that in our ssh servers.)

How many of these folks have ssh access anyway?  I know with my host, I had to ask for it.

Also how many folks will know to grep for 'function myfunction(' instead of 'myfunction('?

[Luke]

True Doc, but it's a basic that they "should" know/learn.

grep -ir "function is_site_admin" ./

from the root MU directory isn't "that" difficult.


Granted, some can't even RTFM, or the screen for that matter.

[drmike]

True Doc, but it's a basic that they "should" know/learn.

Agreed but I know of hosts who don't know that either.  Granted that they're not good hosts but still...

grep -ir "function is_site_admin" ./

*chuckle* Is that what it is?  I don't remember the -ir bit.  Have to go look it up...

from the root MU directory isn't "that" difficult.

But then again, not everybody has that level of access.  They should have it but may not.  Seems like most folks are trying to run mu in a shared hosting account.  I allow ssh access but they have to ask for it first and tell me why they want it. (Although the folks who handle my tech support have permission to turn it on for them.  Heck, my volunteers can even do it if they catch the request in the forums.  They have root access.)

Granted, some can't even RTFM, or the screen for that matter.

Had someone yesterday who didn't even follow the link handed to them. *sigh*

[Luke]

grep -ir "function is_site_admin" ./

*chuckle* Is that what it is?  I don't remember the -ir bit.  Have to go look it up...

i = case insensitive search
r = recursive

Optional, of course, but I use them more times than not.

Granted, some can't even RTFM, or the screen for that matter.

Had someone yesterday who didn't even follow the link handed to them. *sigh*

Yep. It's difficult at times.